after a troublesome but none the less joyfull weekend, finally some other good news:
Sérgio Luís Lopes Júnior, the father of ies4linux has included all the OS X fixes from ies4osx into ies4linux. He is about to include a platform-independent GUI and some more features.
This way, Mac people are going to instantly profit from all the improvements to ies4linux and it’s big user-base. I hope I do not spill to many beans by saying there will be a new forum to exchange problems and how you tackled problems you encountered.
I will continue to help with the project, as I joined the development of ies4linux.
As stated, ies4linux 2.99 is commandline only, yet. I’m looking forward to the first GUI release.
Mike
Hi good news… more time for darwine or using the script to install other programs… specialy in a bottle like antivirus or programs requiring ie preinstall to work.
Comment by marcel — December 3, 2007 @ 21:54
You got it
Mike
Comment by mike — December 3, 2007 @ 23:32
is there any way to make Sun’s Java Virtual Machine work with ies4osx?
Comment by david — December 4, 2007 @ 16:00
It’s amazing! thanks.
I use Korean launage, but I can’t see Korean launage.
How can I fix it?
Comment by dobiho — December 6, 2007 @ 03:15
Mike:
Good to read this and finally comment on it. Both the Linux and MacOSX communities will benefit as this will create what appears to be one very large community.
James
Comment by James McKenzie — December 6, 2007 @ 03:55
I am wondering why this can’t work on PPC based Macs. Could you help me try to understand ?
Thanks
Nicolas
Comment by Nicolas Moss — December 6, 2007 @ 10:03
@Nicolas
That’s quite simple
Internet Explorer is a Windows Executable (.exe), (current) Windows is written for Intel.
First problem:
Intel is a “little endian” CPU, PPC is a “big endian” system.
To make a over-simple example:
Windows would say: “Start Ie” and PPC would understand “eI tratS” as PPC reads the commands “the other way” round, compared with Intel machines.
Second problem:
Intel and PPC have different instruction sets.
To use the above example again:
Windows would say: “start Ie” but on PPC you had to say “Open Ie”, to start Internet Explorer.
So there needs to be a kind of translator for Intel Instructions to run on PPC.
Darwine has a built-in translator in the very eary stages: QEMU. But its not fit for big Apps like Ie:
http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/QemuWork
hope this helps
Mike
Comment by mike — December 6, 2007 @ 11:56
Apple has just emailed offering Parallels to create a PC platform on the web.
At the moment I am using a separate ancient PC to test my Firefox websites to make them work in excreable IE 5,6,7
I don’t find Parallels info very helpful and anyway it looks like you have cracked the problem anyway.
I am no expert so would your software do the trick? At the moment I download to the server and look at it on the PC. Will you software allow me to do the same without using the server. Can I get the Explorer versions free and without buying Windows?
If so this is a major breakthrough for you (and me!)
Regards
Comment by Mike H — December 12, 2007 @ 16:14
@Mike H
First:
Darwine replaces Windows, so no, You don’t need no Windows.
Second:
Microsoft is offering “Internet Explorer” as free downloads. Ies4osx just downloads them and installs them to Darwine.
But: IE7 is very experimental and slow on Darwine atm.
As ies4osx and Darwine are free, why not try. If it’s not working for you, You can always stay with You solution.
Mike
Comment by mike — December 12, 2007 @ 17:54
Thank you for your excellent work. How can I pass an URL via the command line to ie6?
This doesn’t work: (where I’ve shorted the app name)
open ~/Desktop/ie6.app “http://www.apple.com”
open -a ~/Desktop/ie6.app “http://www.apple.com”
~/Desktop/ie6.app/Contents/MacOS/ies4osx “http://www.apple.com” &
TIA
Comment by Kyle — January 3, 2008 @ 20:59
Hi Kyle,
I have to look into that, as cmdline arguments are not passed by the wrapper at the moment.
Mike
Comment by mike — January 5, 2008 @ 10:03
Hey Mike,
I downloaded darwine & ies4osx but it is slow as molasses? What did I do wrong? I am not very knowledgeable about this stuff so if you have a solution that would be great.
Mike
Comment by mike c — January 8, 2008 @ 04:10
Hi Mike – I don’t want to beat a dead horse with the PPC question, but I know that based on your excellent work with QEMU, Darwine, and IEs4Mac, you are the best possible person to ask about this, before I waste a lot of time trying to make something work that is potentially very ill-informed.
As far as I can tell, your program Q does only “system-mode emulation,” however I think QEMU is also theoretically capable of “user-mode emulation” wherein an application binary is run as if it were on a different architecture/OS, without having to load an entire OS for emulation. This user mode emulation supports primarily Linux binaries, as I understand it.
Wouldn’t it be theoretically possible to run a Linux binary version of WINE on a PPC OS X machine using QEMU’s user-mode emulation? Then, Internet Explorer could run through Wine, on top of QEMU, *without* the overhead of having to load the entire Windows OS in QEMU’s system-mode emulation.
I suspect perhaps the link you provided earlier to the qemu-darwin-user project might be the answer to this question, but I just wanted to confirm, as I’m not savvy enough to really grasp the implications of what’s written at that page.
As a side question, do you have any plans to make Q work with user mode emulation, or is this dependent on the upstream QEMU code improving? (or does it already have this functionality and I didn’t notice?)
Thanks so much! (If only I could afford an Intel Mac!)
Comment by danny — January 17, 2008 @ 00:23
to digress even further, if user mode emulation is not really an option, does anyone have any opinions as to what would be the most practical solution for running Internet Explorer on a PPC mac?
scenario one: running an X86 Linux (ie Ubuntu) in Q, then IE through Wine, or…
scenario two: running Windows XP in Q, and IE natively
I know either way will probably be awfully slow, but does anyone have any experience as to which option might be slightly less awfully slow?
thanks!
Comment by danny — January 17, 2008 @ 00:27
Hi -
Great product. I have ies4osx running in Darwine 0.9.50 on several Leopard MacBooks, and it works great.
Today I tried installing it on a new Leopard laptop, and the Darwine 0.9.53 install
and the ies4osx 2_5Beta6_5 install went fine. But, when I went to run
IE, the webpages came up, but I could not see any of the menu items or
the address bar across the top of IE. The menus were there, as I
could see a blank rectangle when I clicked on where they should be,
but I couldn’t see them. I tried changing the color depth in X11 but
that didn’t help. It seemed like a color depth problem of some sort.
Any ideas?
Thanks a lot.
Tom
Comment by Tom — January 25, 2008 @ 09:21
I have Leopard, and the same versions of Darwine and ies4osx as Tom.
I have exactly the same problem on my macbook.
Comment by taesun21 — January 27, 2008 @ 17:56
Same problem here as Tom and taesun21….
Leopard, Darwine 0.9.53, ies4osx 2_5Beta6_5
Great job anyway!
Comment by Paolo — January 27, 2008 @ 21:55
Is there anyway to update this with the latest security patches. I have software that checks the version of IE6 and it requires certain patches. If I do an update via windows update it finds IE patches and says it installed them correctly. However, when I re-start the ies4mac it is not updated.
Even if there was a manual process I would be interested in how to update the actual IE.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Comment by GishX — January 28, 2008 @ 06:37
Hello,
I’m seeing the same issue as Tom, taesun21, and Paolo, however I’m still running on Tiger (10.4.11). Using Apple’s X11 (1.1.3) and ies4osx 2_5Beta6_5. I’ve tried both Darwine 0.9.53 and the newly released 0.9.54, both from this site.
This is definitely a great solution for those of us who much make sites look decent in IE, so I hope that the toolbar enigma can be unraveled soon.
Best regards,
–Erik
Comment by Erik — January 29, 2008 @ 00:05
Hi Tom, taesun21, Paolo and Erik,
txs for reporting and veryfing this issue. I’ll have a look at it later this week, as I’m out of house atm.
As I’ve not changed the ies4osx packages, it might be a newly introduced bug in wine.
You can find my older Darwine packages here: (looks like the .50 build was O.K.)
http://darwine.good-day.net/
Mike
Comment by mike — January 29, 2008 @ 08:33
I downloaded and installed everything earlier today, and IE6 won’t open at all. I am sure I did everything correctly and everything is in place. Just letting you know – I sent an email to ies4osx@kronenberg.org many hours ago and my mail delivery has sent me a message saying it can’t deliver it – it tried for 4 hours – perhaps you are not home and your mail box is full!
Very excited about this!
Robin
Comment by Robin — February 1, 2008 @ 07:58
I should add that when I double click on IE6, X11 opens. When I double click on it again I get a document/window titled xterm.
I tried the 9.50 Darwine instead of the 9.54, but it makes no difference.
Thanks, Robin
Comment by Robin — February 1, 2008 @ 08:21
UPDATE – I’ve got it working now – I updated my X11, because I had just installed it from my Tiger disc.
However IE6 is not showing the Flash player – I cannot see how to install it. The ‘install flash player’ box was ticked in Install_ies4osx. Also, MySpace pages do not show up at all.
Thanks, Robin
Comment by Robin — February 3, 2008 @ 00:24
Yep, I have the same difficulty as those above. I loaded my Outlook Web Access on IE6 in Leopard, and the default font colors which should have been black are now perfectly camouflaged to blend in with the background menu color.
Comment by Bigb — February 4, 2008 @ 19:47
Just want to report that IE7 is the same. Font color problem. Great work, btw!
Comment by Bigb — February 4, 2008 @ 19:55
Hello all, I was having the same no-menus (and many other display bugs) problem, so I reverted to the Darwine .50 build like mike suggested, which didnt fix the bug and now I cant get IE 7 to operate at all- when I run the app it opens an IE6 window that never does anything. Im on tiger with the latest versions of darwine and the ies4osx.
Thanks,
-Adam
Comment by Adam — February 5, 2008 @ 17:40
I found a way to fix the same-color problem of the menu:
1 – Right-click a ies4mac icon and choose “Show Package Contents”.
2 – Go to the directory Contents/Resources/ie6 (for IE6 in this case).
3 – Open the file user.reg with some plaintext editor.
4 – Replace the Section [Control Panel\\Colors] with the content of this file:
http://tombuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/winehumancolours.txt
5 – Save and reload ies4mac.
6 – Repeat the procedure for each IE installed.
I hope this can help.
Comment by Racum — February 6, 2008 @ 21:54
Awesome, thanks for the fix Racum, not sure what the problem was. It installed fine on my home Macbut at work i was getting the weird menu issues, your color tweak fixed it – thanks!
Comment by Jesse J. Anderson — February 13, 2008 @ 22:29
I follow the instructions, and it doesn’t works :s I have leopard and the macbook it’s a penryn, someone have the same problem?
Comment by yair — March 17, 2008 @ 02:50
Hi, I downloaded the program and it works. However I only have the option to install IE6 but I need IE7 as well. It never gave me any options to install that. What did I do wrong?
Comment by Loc — December 25, 2008 @ 23:33
Hi
Just installed Darwine but iesforosx only launches ie6 – no options for any others (osx 10.5.6), is there any way to get ie7 running?
Comment by Rebecca — January 2, 2009 @ 08:28
I have the same problem as Loc and Rebecca. Can we get the previous version in the hope thatone works? or do we have to wait for http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/news/51 to get a fix?
Comment by GG — March 1, 2009 @ 18:21
bump
Comment by GG — March 13, 2009 @ 09:54
hello,
is there a solution to run ie on an imac g5 Power PC?
thanks.
Comment by frederic — July 27, 2009 @ 12:18
I’ve installed X11 on my Mac as well as Darwine, but it will not install ies4osx – - it says it’s not supported by this architecture. What do I have to do to get it installed so I can get IE on my Mac??
Cheers
Comment by amanda — October 11, 2009 @ 20:59
This is a little out of sync…
Please use WineBottler and Wine from here:
http://www.kronenberg.org/wine
News about WineBottler and Wine:
http://mike.kronenberg.org
Comment by mike — October 11, 2009 @ 22:24